After a successful career as a journalist, TV anchor, investigative reporter, radio presenter and interviewer, most recently with ABC TV as the host and chief reporter of Stateline (7.30 Victoria), Josephine Cafagna worked for four years in the Victorian Premier’s Office as Communications Director and then Executive Director, serving under premiers Ted Baillieu and Denis Napthine.

Geoff Mulgan is Professor of Collective Intelligence, Social Innovation and Public Policy at University College London, as well as a prominent author, advisor, funder and social entrepreneur. Between 1997 and 2004 Geoff had various roles in the UK government including director of the Government’s Strategy Unit and head of policy in the Prime Minister’s office. Before that he was the founder and director of the think-tank Demos.

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